Fox McCloud

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  1. Just putting it out there that us going back to ZAS is firmly in the category of "never going to happen".
  2. If you walk, they're passable. Clicking on a barrier with the projector will get rid of that barrier.
  3. That's the entire point of Cluwne though. You're a gibbering overweight, brain damaged, clumsy abomination. You'red allowed to defend yourself if people get violent against you---it's just hard to actually win an engagement becuase of your many disabilities. Cluwne is about creating chaos and giving the player a litlte bit of a fighting chance (and the opportunity to be a complete dunce in their short life), versus just getting turned into gibs outright.
  4. Brig physicians role is to treat minor ailments for prisoners, not to be a fully out medbay replacement for officers.
  5. This was tried out for a time on TG. It resulted in officers essentially being unkillable in a permanent fashion without extreme measures (sudden gibbing, etc). It gave incredible power to the AI and Warden to effectively know where all their officers were at all times, and quickly know exactly where they went down. The retort was "lol just EMP them", but this just arbitrarily forces every traitor and their brother to have to buy EMPs, which generally negative effects how traitors play their side of the game. It gets even worse once it gets rolled into the meta; eventually it's realized that just giving these to any person important enough is a valid tactic for effectively keeping them safe from all but the most extreme forms of permadeath. Needless to say, as realistic as I think this would be, it's not healthy for the overall state and balance of the game, especially on Paradise, where a lot of the extreme permadeath tactics are just out and out barred from traitor use, unless you have hijack. tl; dr. It's a realistic idea, but it has a very toxic impact on the overall flow of the game, and horrifically upsets the dynamic of antag vs station.
  6. One way to make regular mages a bit more ...well, chaotic and exciting would be to make summon guns and summon magic do what they were originally designed to do; be something other than "screw the wizard over completely". Originally it was designed to basically entice the crew to kill each other, making it easier for the wizard to cause chaos. As it currently stands, summon guns/magic is pretty much just this, for the wizard:
  7. it was a relic. You find them in maintenance. What they do though has to be discovered by the EXPERIMENTOR in science. What they do, however, is random, so you're never guaranteed to get the relic that does as you describe.
  8. This is something that's probably going to be debated, endlessly, by both sides, with regards to strong/hard AI; is it really conscious, or is an approximation that only gives the impression that it is? Even if it's an approximation, is that still something worth extending the status of sentience (and therefore, right, perhaps) to? Who knows. There's no test for consciousness/sentience/sapience at the moment; we really only know that we, ourselves (as a singular individual) have it; we can't even be sure that anyone else has it (though thinking no one else has it could lead you to engage in some pretty terrible actions, and if you're incorrect, well...I think you can see where I"m going with this). There's also the technical issue. Is consciousness even able to be replicated by a computer? We have few ideas how the brain works at the moment; we can pin things down to sectors of the brain, we can correlate behaviors and quirks and abnormalities to particular sections, but once you start delving down into the nitty gritty? We don't know. What makes a particular set of neurons behave the way they do? What causes a neuron to "decide" when to fire (what causes it to react its action potential?). Is it purely based on outside influence (ie: other neurons), or does the neuron have some internal mechanism that we haven't really been able to peer into yet, because it's on the atomic level inside the neuron? We have no idea.Hell, the neuron could operate on the quantum level, according to some neurological researchers. So the simple answer is: we don't know. Hopefully we will find out some day, because it would be nice to know what is sentient/sapient/conscious, and what is just a mechanistic machine that has zero actual personal experience, even if it can output in some communicative way that it does. tl;dr. Realistically, who knows. That said, this is SS13. It doesn't have the same rules as our universe. Souls are objectively true and real, supernatural entities provably exist, farts can be weaponized, magic is real, flipping is physically easy, ghosts exist. We can just hand-wave anything and say it exists/is real precisely because it's a fictional world.
  9. You can. This has been a feature, forever. Use a multitool on the cyborg suit item.
  10. (1) Not really possible, as antag selection happens before job selection now. (2) Even if it were possible, the "screw antags; they ruin the game" crowd will actively latejoin as sec just to keep antag numbers low or stack things to their advantage. There's far too many problems with this to even remotely be feasible, and that's assuming I agree with this notion to begin with (I don't).
  11. I've always been the biggest supporter of Rev. It's easily by favorite mode and probably in my top 4 antags. The mode has been through various tweaks and iterations, but I've never been able to persuade enough over to my side on its merits. I've always been confused by those who embrace, heavily, Shadowling and Cult, but are vehemently opposed to rev. There's wider conflict, but it's still, at its core the same thing: variations of TDM. Rev ramps up things quicker and makes the round progress faster into a more chaotic form, but, at its core, it's not much different from the others (especially Shadowling). The only time I have problems with Rev are when it stretches beyond the hour mark; either side stalling forever isn't very pleasant; the game mode is meant to be high-stakes, bloody, and quick; not a long drawn out process of infinite turtling.
  12. An even better idea: actually having the department that has the responsibility of taking care of the problem their job was designed for to handle it. I apologize for the bit of snark, but really, I don't understand, at all, this notion of "let's add an existing job to my department only it's loyal to my department alone". No department is meant to be an island unto itself; no department is meant to be immune to the risks and incompetencies of having to deal with another department; security is no exception. Before someone brings up how ridiculous science can get at times; that's not an excuse for other departments to be just as ridiculous. You don't resolve a problem by creating another similar problem so they're both equal; you resolve the problem where it occurs. I'm further perplexed why this mentality crops up specifically with regards to security as a department; what is it that somehow set security apart from needing/deserving their own special role within that department? (The only exception I can recall is a few very very brief suggestion for a mining doctor). If that's the case, why shouldn't medical get their own engineering job, loyal to medical? Why shouldn't mining get their own science researcher role? Why shouldn't science get their own security officer *loyal only to them*? What is it about security, as a department, that specifically draws people to want to make it self-sufficient?
  13. I can just about guarantee what will happen with the "Brig Technician"; invariably, he'd probably have basic engineering access, much like the brig physician has basic medbay access. On the whole, much like the brig physician, there's not going to be a whole lot of pressure or responsibility except when things go wrong in a major way (ie: sec gets bombed or something). This gives them an incredibly amount of free time to do whatever he wants. We already know what this leads to, with the Brig physician. The job was originally created to patch up beat up/hurt suspects/detained individuals, not security personnel. What the brig physician has become is security's private medical doctor, with setups like this considered something noble to aim for: I can easily see things developing the same way for this job. The pitch is that it's to help security patch up/fix up things that go wrong. It may very well be that, at first, but having access and tools (not to mention a huge one; legitimacy via antag immunity and mindshield) will see said individual helping out security via other means. My best guess? The "gold standard" for a brig technician will end up being raiding tech storage and building security their own personal R&D lab. It also has another nasty feedback loop in that it makes it even easier for the Brig physician to do the above because it provides an easier method for acquiring various medical circuits. Another issue is that it's also going to provide security with a dedicated, go-to, trustworthy hacker for breaking into just about anywhere. This is what I'm getting at with self-sufficiency. Small, seemingly innocent additions can have large impacts on the behavior that develops within a department. Brig physician is a key example of this.
  14. Absolutely not. One of the reasons science is so reviled is that they're not only strong, but one of the more self-sufficient departments. Making departments more self-sufficient is a step in the wrong direction. Departments are meant to have to rely on others when things go awry or mistakes are made. This self-sufficiency does exist, to a certain degree, in all departments, but that's not a reason to expand it. Overall, there should probably be a reduction in self-sufficiency, not an increase of it.
  15. Greetings! Welcome to my guide on how to be the best HoP of literally ALL time. What's HoP and Why should it matter to you? Well! That's simple! HoP (Head of Personnel) is quite simply put, the best and most important job on the entire station. You could quite easily build a case that the whole reason the station exists is because NT built it just for you. Your rank is unparalleled; you're not some manchild babysitting a bunch of losers with a fake medal of "captaincy" and ego problems--nope! You KNOW you're the best. Just follow these simple steps and you'll easily be the just as good as the highest ranking and elitest of elite HoP's out there. Step 1. NT didn't want any of those other petulant mnchildren to be jealous of your true status, so they gave you a rather plain looking ID card and access that doesn't entail the entire station. That said in their wisdom they didn't grant you an AMAZING machine that allows you to give yourself any access level you want. This is the most important part to being an HoP; slot in another ID and quickly upgrade your own personal ID to all access. Don't stop there though, the sissy Head of Shitcurity and Captain of Comdomcy won't like, so your best bet is to make multiple all access IDs. Hide them in a box, hide them around the station---hide them in your office. If those troglodytes ever get the gall to actually take away your GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO THE ENTIRE STATION, you'll want a backup to get your access back. Step 2. Your fellow man is very important. Why? MONEY. Before anyone can stop you, open up shop and start offering to sell all access to anyone and everyone who will pay you ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS. If they don't pay up, that's ok, smile and nod and take their ID anyway--and when you do, rename their job to something completely befitting of their position 'Buttflip McScientist" with the job of "Toilet Licker"--while you're at it, remove access from their ID entirely and hand it back to them with a "hear ya go!"; they'll smile and wiggle excitedly as they tromp off to access absolutely nothing--don't worry about the retribution though! More on that later. For those who do pay, give them what they want! Chuck out those all access cards like candy---clown paid the $1000? Pfftt, who cares! The armory doesn't really have that great of weapons in it anyway! Step 3: Don't stay open for long. Your job isn't to change nerds jobs--stay open for about 10 minutes into your shift, after which point you must embark on your next greatest journey: self-enrichment. See that back account console in the computer room? Yup that's not the station's--this is your personal ATM...NT just made a few mistakes of depositing money in the wrong accounts. The best HoP's will drain the entirety of payroll, research, and cargo and transfer it onto their own account. Be on the lookout for that nerdling IAA though who may audit you later---this is why you'll want all your moolah in cash or deposited on your card---if it's your own bank account someone might break in and steal it! Step 4: Cargoland. It's time to start exerting your true command experience over the station---after being open for 10 minutes, it's time to head on over to cargo. Berate the miners and QM for not having 1000 cargo points yet and remind them that they were nerds for not taking your all access offer for $1000 when they could have. After this, grab order yourself a crate of stun batons, lasers, and bees (always bees always). After your shipment arrives, use your GOD GIVEN RIGHT to these crates to open them and quickly deposit the contents in your backpack. After grabbing a bee egg, stunning the QM, and forcing said egg down his throat, it's time to move on! Step 4.6: Corgis Breed those little guys until their hearts give out like they were just fed an initropidril pill---then sell them...for money. Step 5: The AI is your friend! Now that you've quite easily asserted that you're the HoP of HOPPERY, it's time to make a new friend--the AI. That wonky robo-thingcan actually come in handy. Best thing to do is trot in to the AI upload and grab the purge and freeform module---purge that crotechy piece of shit and upload a law informing it that it's name is "Spess Bee of Happiness" and that it must entertain and care for the crew like it was its very own brood. After all, everyone needs a cuddly buzzing friend every once in a while Step 6: Your real job.'s time...time to accomplish your real purpose. Head to EVA and grab a full set of gear including magboots and a jetpack---head immediately off the station...after all, those pathetic meth-sucking sarin huffing lunatics get damn jealous sometimes---they're liable to fly off the handle and kill you for one of your hundred all access IDs or somehow become confused and angry that the money they stole from YOU at the start of the shift has been transferred PROPERLY back into your account. Once off the station, the sky is the limit---head on over to your local chemistry meth lab and start experimentation--after all, this is your true call: ADVENTURE. See that engineering station you just came across? It's uninhabited and never used---use it for all your chemical testing purposes; don't worry about the shuttle that docks there--no one ever uses it and the few times someone does? one minded a little black powder in their lungs anyway--I mean, that stuff is close enough to charcoal as is! Step 7: Returning to the Station. This step. Skip it. Step 8: Shipments of 'taters come to the station once in a while, and you're no exception to this. Bask in the glory of being the single best person ever to get this job---the world is your oyster---or in this case, you're the warden of the asylum. Using your well established powers and routines, you have all the means to make the BEST STATION EVER. See that RD? He's not as good as you, but he's still pretty amazing. Go jab him in the head with an implant and whisper those oh so magic words he's been dying to hear "go hog wild". After setting your bestest friend to work on the station, it's time to start promoting anyone remotely loyal to you to "Head of AWESOMECURITY"---Not just one---every single one. After all, that Shitlord Supercop beret toting nerdlord doesn't deserve his job or his armory. Oh, your objective? Silly syndicates, they don't send taters to the station to steal stuff---nahhh, those are just guidelines they give to OTHER people--it's implicitly understood that you've been given a blank check to a bank account that will never bounce. So---go forth, warden, and rule your asylum Step 9: Shuttle Rides. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU. Step 7. Step 10: Bask in the glory of being the BEST HOP EVER I hope you enjoyed my guide to becoming a great and outstanding HoP---we sure could use more of them in this world!
  16. Right. My two cents. Keep it off. I've always been a strong supporter of this policy while at paradise; while I learned to play SS13 on an OOC friendly server and strongly favored it being enabled, once I started playing on Goon, my mind changed. While, yes, there are amusing conversations and tidbits to be had from OOC, on the whole, more often than not, it tends to be a distraction from the in-round events and going's on than an actual help. It also creates more administrative burden for the admins and one additional information channel we have to keep track of. While this may not seem like much to the average player (even then, I disagree here, but to each their own), but to an admin, the amount of information spewed at us is patently ridiculous. OOC, regular in-game chat, admin chat, mentor chat, dead chat, game event logs, attack logs, explosion logs, some extremely important debug logs that even regular non-coder admins need to see. Adding one more bit of information here just exacerbate that overload. There's opportunity cost for everything. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Every moment that an admin spends keeping an eye on and maintaining OOC is that same moment they aren't spending on administrating the events or keeping an eye on the events, in game. While there may be some who disagree with me, as a normative standard, I think it's more important we focus on what impacts the players playing the game more than those discussing things on some level above the game (even more so when, again, we have a Discord). From a player perspective, it's much easier to concentrate on in-game events and not have your immersion broken by huge blue text---which almost never has anything to do with the going's on's of in-game events. You know that person who starts blaring silly music in the middle of some role-playing game or who's phone goes off in the middle of a movie theatre with shockingly disparate music? That's OOC. Yeah, it may not be quite that offensive, but it does divide player attention (again, opportunity cost!), and ultimately pulls player's focus away from in-game action and in-game roleplay. You also have scenarios and situations whereby, if OOC is optional, it's your personal preference to have it off, but it's non-optimal (from a social maximization standpoint) to do so because of the lost opportunities from numerous important game-related discussion had within the game; ergo, more often than not people keep it on than otherwise would. Community cohesion and unity can still be easily maintained if you have a central gathering point. Back when we didn't have a Discord, and the IRC was pretty much a hidden group of just a dozen or so people? Yeah, I could understand the argument for keeping OOC for the social benefit of the server. That's no longer the case though; the Discord is heavily populated and widely advertised. tl; dr. Keeping OOC off is a great step towards integrating players better into the server from a gameplay and roleplay standpoint. On a lesser note, it means admins will be able to better focus on in-game problems (or events), rather than having yet another information stream that they have to monitor and oversee.
  17. We handle overpopulation via listing/de-listing, not job capping.
  18. Yeah, there should be. If they're not uncapped, people will ultimately pick a job they don't actually want, then immediately request demotion---and that's at best. They could also just pick the job and faff about doing what they really want to do until they're fired, or, at worst, be a total nuisance. Forcing someone to play a job doesn't make them happier for doing so; it just makes them resentful. Not all assistants are murderous greytiding jerks; some people just want to interact with other people how they may without responsibility--others are not inclined to the rigid structure that a traditional job imposes and would prefer to work more chaotically where they're needed at a given time. Others still have played for such length that they find the specific job of assistant to be appealing in and of itself, rather than other jobs. There's also the fact that I don't think someone should be locked out of the game once all job slots are exhausted. Due to the breadth and many criterion that pull people towards assistant (I'd argue more than most other jobs), I strongly believe that it should be uncapped; security officers should scale with total assistants, not the other way around.
  19. Forcing people to go along with your roleplay is a great way to come across as a jerk. Likewise it's counter-productive. Making someone behave or engage in actions against their will typically only breeds resentment; they're probably going to end up hating you for your actions, and, worse yet, they're probably going to end up being less inclined to roleplay after having you force an experience onto them. Why? Because it becomes a case of "If this is what roleplay is about; forcing others to comply with what they believe is good roleplay, then I want to have nothing to do with it". Force and aggression are rarely a good tool for convincing people to engage in behaviors you want. I'd also point out that it's a doubled-edged sword; you forcing someone to RP in a particular way inherently means that you're making the value judgment of what constitutes and is the "proper" way to roleplay. This is going to vary from person to person, and even two more heavily leaning roleplayers are ultimately going to have different answers on the "proper" way to behave in a given situation. Going one step further, I also think it's disingenuous to engage in this behavior because behind it, it assumes, to a degree, that everyone should react in the same pre-scripted way in a stilted manner to particular events. This is not only unrealistic, but a bit dishonest. Not everyone is bothered by the same things; not everyone is going to have an outburst at someone dying; some will internalize it, some will just be uncomfortable---others don't have much of a care. One-size-fits all just doesn't work.
  20. For all intents and purposes, ghosts and spirits are canon in SS13. While you may personally reject them as existing or refuse to acknowledge them for your own personal RP narrative, you are ultimately rejecting the objective truth of the nature of how things play out on Paradise. It's quite easy to demonstrate, in multiple ways, that ghosts/spirits are a thing: - The existence of ghost interacting with lights - A number of cult mechanics, including the pulling in of ghosts back to the "physical plane" - Scrying orb is a big one; this explicitly lets wizards leave their body and look around; they can also interact with deadchat and glean any information the ghosts know and use that information to influence the round; non-wizards who get a hold of a scrying orb are also allowed to do this (yes, this means you can use the orb, ask ghosts "where is the wizard", then act on that info they tell you, without fear of getting bwoinked, but again, this is ONLY with the scrying orb) - While not officially merged in, the Devil Game mode touches on this even more; it explicitly has souls as a thing core to the game mechanics--it also strongly supports the notion that souls are required for there to be sentient beings. With regard to cloning it can definitely, objectively, be stated that souls do, in fact, exist, and that someone does, in fact, require one to be alive and sentient; the cloning mechanic, itself, stipulates this, as does the Devil game mode (can't be cloned if you sold your soul). I do think it is, given the way the game is structured, perfectly legitimate to assert ICly, that anyone who denies this or sets forth a purely "physical" version of the mind is a "soul denier"; that said I don't think this fact should be enforced, RP wise, that everyone has to and should accept that there are ethereal souls. Even with cloning removed, I would suggest that this paradigm would still remain in place, largely because of other mechanics and the existence of several game modes. As for how this impacts cloning. Well, there's a number of argument to be made here, I feel, both for and against remembering things before you died. Just because it can be proven there are souls doesn't necessarily mean that the memories would follow through from physical to soul back to physical. Here on Paradise, we do allow you to engage in this behavior. I do personally feel that the "soul" does retains the memories of the person, which is why whether you're pre-scanned vs post-scanned doesn't matter. If you're only regenerating the body, itself; the core essence of a person is still ultimately attached to the soul of the individual. I think this is demonstrable in the fact that "notes" can be created and altered yet still retained prior to and after resurrection. The weakness of this argument, of course, is "why can't you remember things while you were a soul". I admit, I don't have a good reason to back this up, especially not from a mechanical standpoint. Regardless of how the argument of "would you remember or not?" is approached, I do think it can be argued well that, factually, yes, all cloned individuals are the same person as they were prior to their death; they aren't a completely new person. Again, yes, I do posit that you could argue that someone who insists otherwise is a "soul denier", but, again, I don't think this should be enforced by administration (that is to say, if you want to deny the existence of soul and insist that you're a new being, that's fine, though it would be "objectively" wrong from an IC standpoint). Also, I'll clarify that the above argument is limited only to SS13; I'm not saying "this extends to real life". LIkewise, I don't think you can make the argument, legitimately and honestly, that "well, that's not realistic" or "That's not how it works in real life." It's demonstrably true that SS13's laws ("the universe") is fundamentally different from that of the real universe. I think it's safe to make the argument "I wish SS13 was more realistic and didn't have/did have X"; however, outright rejecting the laws of SS13 merely because you don't like them/favor it being "more realistic" is patently false and engaging in denialism.
  21. Not that I'm suggesting we necessarily go back to this model, but, what you describe was the de facto standard, once upon a time. The chef had access to the bar and his kitchen, but the bartender only had access to the bar. The bar was also attached to the kitchen, as well. This stems from Goon and is still a thing on TG; it's really just a Bay thing to break the two off, completely. The end result of the original arrangement was, the chef, by virtue of his access, kinda had a de facto authority amongst the bar+hydroponics and could easily facilitate requests---also, since he was more important than the bartender, he could leverage that importance in getting extra ingredients for the bartender that the bartender would normally have an enormously hard time getting.
  22. Flat out wrong. It had Inaprovaline in it, which prevents suffocation damage while in crit, and that's literally it. Extremely dubious. On average, there's a ~9.5% chance for them to take, on average, 1.5 tox every 2 seconds. Even if you injected someone with 10 of these, they're still only going take ~57 Tox damage....over the next 800 seconds. If they were "Killed" by "ODing on epi", they were already dead anyway or were being damaged by some other source; yeah, sure, it may have contributed to it, to a degree, but even in the extreme, it's just going to be an annoyance; not something life-threatening "oh my gosh, no counter" tactic. Compare this with a welder which does 15 burn damage, up front, in an instant that can be re-applied every 0.8 seconds; You get 10 welds with a mini for a total of 150 damage (enough to hard crit!) This isn't even delving into the non-medical benefits of starting with a welding tool. You start with epi you can sometimes save a life with it (or, rarely, your own). That's it. A welding tool can take down walls, seal doors, seal lockers, and act as one of the highest damage non-traitor weapons in the game. We've shot this down before, because have to consider non-proximate uses of the welding tool in addition to emergent behavior from giving it to IPC players (and just overall fairness), and we believe the negatives outweigh the positives. We don't just walk around thinking "how else can we screw over IPCs today".
  23. Why hasn't the station population dropped by 90% following this change in NT policy?